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lyra_song · May 05, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by MistressYichi

aww,,, whys everyone gotta hate on the asian ghetto...

>.> Pfft...ghetto aint got nothing on a slum.

im only generalizing for the typical "ghetto" or government run housing project.

People who live in the ghetto didnt BUILD them.
People in the ghetto can get running water/running toilets.
People in the ghetto can get government support.

moriz · May 05, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

the city is pretty nice. there's just one thing i don't like about it:

make it so that you do not aggro monsters on different levels. nothing more annoying to have my henchies trying to engage a crowd of thugs BELOW us, and having Talon Silverwing run a marathon around the map just to attack them.

zerohaste · May 05, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by Amadei

Sentiment seconded. I absolutely LOVE the city. I love that I can be very far away from Kaineng Center and still be in the same city. I like the maze-like structure and even the gloom; it perfectly captures the feeling of a slum.

I love the design of the whole slum area as well. Being able to go from the bottom level up to the rooftops and then look down was an awesome feeling... it really made the place seem much bigger than it was.

quickmonty · May 05, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by aron searle

quickmonty meet my dictionary, turn to page 56 there you will find the meaning of "sarcasm".

You know the definition but didn't recognize it when you read it

beanerman_99 · May 05, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

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Originally Posted by Andy_M

To be perfectly honest I prefer post-searing Ascalon to the slums. And I NEVER thought I would type that sentence......ever.

LOL Its like you read my mind!
I personally don't mind the slums as much as I mind the god-awful quests of going back and forth and then back and wait! I got to go forth again??? wtf!

Seriously, the questing in this area blows. Every time you read anything about RPG's in magazines and such THE biggest complaint is the so-called "fetch" quests where you go to A to get the quests, B to complete the goal, and then back to A to get rewards. Only now in Factions city you go to point A then B and then maybe C and then to A and back to B. But the "twist" is that you have to zone to a new area each time you go to A,B or C and fight the same mobs over and over and over again. Not very oringinal. Thats why I prefer the missions over the side quests. Let me feel like I am really doing something rather than just running around killing stuff.

4runner · May 05, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

the slums remind me of panama, when we were down there looking for Noriega, tin shacks interpersed amoung buildings quite cool!!!

NO complaints!

Young Hero · May 05, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

/signed!
Nuke it now PLEASE

plasmasword · May 05, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06

I hate the city, it felt like every wall had the same repeating texture. While doing quests, I felt like pac man in a huge mage with huge walls. Theres nothing pretty to look at and it takes so long to get past it.

aron searle · May 05, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

I propose a compromise, lets nuke half of it

Fitz Rinley · May 05, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

The city is an awesome place in the game. Sure, I got sick of it and wanted to escape, but it was still a great part of the map. And I'll be going back when I've finished to complete some areas I skipped past, like the Undercity.

Wonder how many players look at this experience and think about what it is like for those in the Real World.

Fitz

iShiver · May 05, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

I hated the film 'Gangs of New York' these slums are on that same level.

Why cant we round a few residents up and organise a protest to the government?

quickmonty · May 05, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

How about a new quest. Instead of handing out mirrors to the peasants we hand out paint and brushes and paint the ghetto!

Diablo™ · May 05, 2006, 06:46 PM // 18:46

I FREAKING LOVE the slums! That was one of the most impressive things I found in Factions! Don't take it away please!!

Daemon Dremora · May 05, 2006, 06:57 PM // 18:57

i too love the slums... i had alot of fun down there. i like the way it feels like a maze...because i love mazes. i too have ran around and taken a few screenies because the way anet captured the over all feel of the slums. it really does feel like you are in a really run down part of town... Anet you guys did awesome plz plz plz do not nuke the slums.

lyra_song · May 05, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Maybe if it snowed, the slums would look prettier?

UndeadRoadkill · May 05, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

My only real annoyance in the area was 'babysitting' NPCs (especially when they're dead before you even get to them). I didn't mind the rest.

nitrile · May 05, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

I didn't so much love the slums or the sewers as that there is real a city at all. Lion's Arch? Please. In the games I've played, urbanised areas are never more than hinted at, but here we have a fairly good one. Even oblivion's imperial city is barely the size of a (real) cathedral's grounds and the "cities" of Tyria are tiny hovels by any measure. Kaineng is a metropolis by these standards and it's fantastically refreshing to actually have that place as a backdrop for events. I don't so much love mazes; of the maguuma jungle variety - terrain doesn't work that way, does it? But I do like the city very much and it makes perfect sense.

I must admit though, some of the quests just took a bit too much running about, I do get tired of killing the same mobs 8 times because I had to zone but they're not essential to the plot. In fact it's quick skill points should I decide I need them on prophecies characters but otherwise ignorable if we choose. It's too much work to get a _group_ of people do these as everyone is at different stages - this is the problem that really needs addressing as I see it. If consensus is that Kaineng is 'too large' then that's fine by me. But if Ch3 regresses to hovels I'll be tremendously disappointed.

MSecorsky · May 05, 2006, 07:13 PM // 19:13

As much as I hate it (from the sense of not wanting to live there, or even go on an extended vacation), I love how it fits into the story. It's a necessary and intriguing place, imo. I've done probably 40+ quests there so far and still haven't found them all. And no... not every quest is a point A to B to C back to A either.

So, from a game perspective, I love it. Won't be looking to buy property there however.

Omni Spirit · May 05, 2006, 07:18 PM // 19:18

/signed

Pls nuke the slums, its boring, annoying and depressing.

Hunter Sharparrow · May 05, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

From what I've played and read it seems the problem isn't the slums itself but rather the maze like navigation. It's too easy to take the wrong turn even when following the map. The solution here isn't getting rid of the slums but rather introduce more paths and alleyways. It could be a bit more like NY and have square blocks with more paths perpendicular to each other. I'm not suggesting changing it to be completely like that just to be a little like that. It will also make the game less linear which in turn will make it not so repetitive and boring. Also adding a few quarks to liven things up would help make it less boring.